Comments on: Morons Who Believe WMD Have Been Found in Iraq Goes From 36% to 50% http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/ Your Daily Commentary on the Weird, Wacky, Strange and Odd News from Around the Globe! Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:54:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Analeye Lipshtiz http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-4013 Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:41:39 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-4013 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48827 Or you guys could read David Kaye's report? http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48827

Or you guys could read David Kaye’s report?

]]> by: Potfry http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-4000 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:45:00 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-4000 Thanks for straightening me out, Porter. The fact that it happened "way back when" is so highly relevant. Clearly, the man changed alot in the 80s and 90s-- found his sensitive side, sort of like you. Worked with charities, the homeless, and generally tried to make the world a better place. I. DON'T. CARE. IF. WE. DON'T. FIND. WMD. The man said he had them, and certainly acted like he did. If he was an idiot in addition to being a murderous tyrant, he had it coming to him. Thanks for straightening me out, Porter. The fact that it happened “way back when” is so highly relevant. Clearly, the man changed alot in the 80s and 90s– found his sensitive side, sort of like you. Worked with charities, the homeless, and generally tried to make the world a better place.

I. DON’T. CARE. IF. WE. DON’T. FIND. WMD.

The man said he had them, and certainly acted like he did. If he was an idiot in addition to being a murderous tyrant, he had it coming to him.

]]> by: restless http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3993 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:26:27 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3993 Well, I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that neither Bush nor Powell lied. There have been a half a dozen books published now by people who either worked in the government (Clark, et al.) or have investigated the events (Bernstein, et al.), as well as all the articles around the Plame/Niger yellowcake affair, that conclusively prove this Administration was hell-bent on regime change in Iraq long before 9/11 **and** were deliberately ignoring and distorting the intelligence they were receiving. If that's not lying, what is? Well, I don’t see how you could come to the conclusion that neither Bush nor Powell lied. There have been a half a dozen books published now by people who either worked in the government (Clark, et al.) or have investigated the events (Bernstein, et al.), as well as all the articles around the Plame/Niger yellowcake affair, that conclusively prove this Administration was hell-bent on regime change in Iraq long before 9/11 **and** were deliberately ignoring and distorting the intelligence they were receiving. If that’s not lying, what is?

]]> by: Aaron http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3990 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:16:28 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3990 I wouldn't say I necessarily believed him. In fact I didn't much care about the evidence one way or the other. I think it's obvious now, though, and it's beeb very well documented, that the Bush administration dumped, pushed, fabricated (not that they necessarily fabricated them, although they had good reason to believe they were likely fabricated) stories into the media and subsequently the UN. You don't call this a lie, I do. I believe he went before the American people and said things he knew were, at the very least, likely not true. Did he believe that these ends would justify the means - That we would find greater intact stores of chemical weapons when all was said and done? I'm really unsure. Either way though, this wouldn't change my opinion that this qualified as a lie. I wouldn’t say I necessarily believed him. In fact I didn’t much care about the evidence one way or the other. I think it’s obvious now, though, and it’s beeb very well documented, that the Bush administration dumped, pushed, fabricated (not that they necessarily fabricated them, although they had good reason to believe they were likely fabricated) stories into the media and subsequently the UN. You don’t call this a lie, I do. I believe he went before the American people and said things he knew were, at the very least, likely not true. Did he believe that these ends would justify the means - That we would find greater intact stores of chemical weapons when all was said and done? I’m really unsure. Either way though, this wouldn’t change my opinion that this qualified as a lie.

]]> by: Loser http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3989 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:44:24 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3989 I agree Aaron. I belived him as well, though I had doubts about how much of a threat Saddam constituted to the US. Nevertheless, although I believed he wouldn't use them, I believed he would hand them out to anyone who wanted them. I don't thin, however, that BUsh lied. That Powell lied. I think they - and most of the rest of hte other worl - believed Saddam had it. But they were wrong. Unfortunately, the only people paying for that mistake are the young men and women being killed and crippled in Iraq right now, both ours and theirs. A mistake of that magnitude should have seen heads rolling in Washington - but no one was held accountable. And when accountability goes, people feel as though they can do anything they want. I agree Aaron. I belived him as well, though I had doubts about how much of a threat Saddam constituted to the US. Nevertheless, although I believed he wouldn’t use them, I believed he would hand them out to anyone who wanted them. I don’t thin, however, that BUsh lied. That Powell lied. I think they - and most of the rest of hte other worl - believed Saddam had it. But they were wrong. Unfortunately, the only people paying for that mistake are the young men and women being killed and crippled in Iraq right now, both ours and theirs. A mistake of that magnitude should have seen heads rolling in Washington - but no one was held accountable. And when accountability goes, people feel as though they can do anything they want.

]]> by: Aaron http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3985 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:52 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3985 No, sorry, I don't remember EVERYBODY agreeing that. I don't remember the UN inspectors agreeing with that. Myself, I wasn't sure one way or the other. I wasn't sure the government was capable of completely lying to the country. My brother, Porter, was sure that he was (lying) though. So was my Father. I thought some of the things might have been fabricated - particularly the mobile labs on rail lines. Forget the labs, I still haven't even seen any evidence that Iraq even had a single rail line. I'd say I was like a lot of people (and probably what you meant by your ("EVERYBODY"), suspecting Iraq probably had some spare chemical weapons sitting around - significantly more than have turned up. Not that I believed this was much of a threat, though. It seemed like a very poor justification for war when better reasons were out there. Similarly, despite my believing this, I never thought these reasons justified us actually pressing the button to go ahead with the war. Particularly considering that it wasn't justified by the UN and that the "Coalition of the Willing" would basically be us, with a little help from the UK. Should these "WMD", had they existed, have been considered truly weapons of mass destruction? Perhaps technically, but not really in my eyes. They could never have been used against the US and if Hussein ever used them against neighboring countries then he would surely have spelled his doom in the court of world opinion, and the UN. So no, his WMD was hardly a threat at all. This is a better characterization and is what history will remember. No, sorry, I don’t remember EVERYBODY agreeing that. I don’t remember the UN inspectors agreeing with that. Myself, I wasn’t sure one way or the other. I wasn’t sure the government was capable of completely lying to the country. My brother, Porter, was sure that he was (lying) though. So was my Father. I thought some of the things might have been fabricated - particularly the mobile labs on rail lines. Forget the labs, I still haven’t even seen any evidence that Iraq even had a single rail line. I’d say I was like a lot of people (and probably what you meant by your (”EVERYBODY”), suspecting Iraq probably had some spare chemical weapons sitting around - significantly more than have turned up. Not that I believed this was much of a threat, though. It seemed like a very poor justification for war when better reasons were out there. Similarly, despite my believing this, I never thought these reasons justified us actually pressing the button to go ahead with the war. Particularly considering that it wasn’t justified by the UN and that the “Coalition of the Willing” would basically be us, with a little help from the UK. Should these “WMD”, had they existed, have been considered truly weapons of mass destruction? Perhaps technically, but not really in my eyes. They could never have been used against the US and if Hussein ever used them against neighboring countries then he would surely have spelled his doom in the court of world opinion, and the UN. So no, his WMD was hardly a threat at all. This is a better characterization and is what history will remember.

]]> by: Loser http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3983 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:16:58 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3983 So how come the whole rest of the world thought he had it too? You seem to foget that pretty much EVERYBODY agreed that he had it, that wasn't what all the controvery was about. The controvery was over what should be done about it. So how come the whole rest of the world thought he had it too? You seem to foget that pretty much EVERYBODY agreed that he had it, that wasn’t what all the controvery was about. The controvery was over what should be done about it.

]]> by: Aaron http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3978 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:04:43 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3978 I never said anything about lazy. But yea, I'm lazy, I didn't take them time to see the question. I figured someone like you might post it for me. I never said anything about lazy. But yea, I’m lazy, I didn’t take them time to see the question. I figured someone like you might post it for me.

]]> by: Porter Venn http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3977 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:23:36 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3977 Uhhh Potfry... Those Nasty WMD's you speak of that Saddam had? They were Chemical weapons used against the Iranians in the Iran / Iraq war in the 1980's. As in... you know... the 1980's. Ring a Bell? Boy George, Ronald Reagan, Pac Man, Rubiks Cube... Those 1980's. Which happened around 20 years prior to George Bush's Infamous Mushroom Cloud speeches in the months before the 2003 invasion. Uhhh Potfry… Those Nasty WMD’s you speak of that Saddam had? They were Chemical weapons used against the Iranians in the Iran / Iraq war in the 1980’s. As in… you know… the 1980’s. Ring a Bell? Boy George, Ronald Reagan, Pac Man, Rubiks Cube… Those 1980’s. Which happened around 20 years prior to George Bush’s Infamous Mushroom Cloud speeches in the months before the 2003 invasion.

]]> by: Potfry http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3976 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 03:10:55 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3976 Or it could be that the fact that Saddam Hussein SAID he had WMD, acted like he had WMD, and used biological weapons against his own people, was good enough for most folks. The fact that we didn't find them really doesn't matter. For most people who think simply and logically. Which, um, you all seem to lack. Or it could be that the fact that Saddam Hussein SAID he had WMD, acted like he had WMD, and used biological weapons against his own people, was good enough for most folks. The fact that we didn’t find them really doesn’t matter. For most people who think simply and logically. Which, um, you all seem to lack.

]]> by: Sid http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3974 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 02:57:37 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3974 Aaron, restless; Funny that we are talking about intellectual laziness. You talk about how 'It depends on how the questions that supposedly got that result were shaped.' Well, there is a link to the poll with the actual questions. Talk about lazy. "Do you believe that the following statements are true or not true?" Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the U.S. invaded. People are stupid. Believe it. Aaron, restless;
Funny that we are talking about intellectual laziness.

You talk about how ‘It depends on how the questions that supposedly got that result were shaped.’

Well, there is a link to the poll with the actual questions. Talk about lazy.

“Do you believe that the following statements are true or not true?”

Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the U.S. invaded.

People are stupid. Believe it.

]]> by: restless http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3972 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:47:24 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3972 I'm not sure I believe the polls. It depends on how the quetions that supposedly got that result were shaped. There's lies, damn lies and statistics. I’m not sure I believe the polls. It depends on how the quetions that supposedly got that result were shaped. There’s lies, damn lies and statistics.

]]> by: Aaron http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3970 Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:05:31 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3970 No way. I know there are a lot of stupid people out there, but I don't believe this poll, unless the question was asked insincerely, with bias, etc. I don't believe this result. No way. I know there are a lot of stupid people out there, but I don’t believe this poll, unless the question was asked insincerely, with bias, etc. I don’t believe this result.

]]> by: Bazule http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3969 Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:57:09 +0000 http://goofyblog.net/morons-who-believe-wmd-have-been-found-in-iraq-goes-from-36-to-50/#comment-3969 I would say it's more the fault of the American Education system than anything else. We've become sheep. I would say it’s more the fault of the American Education system than anything else. We’ve become sheep.

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