Morons Who Believe WMD Have Been Found in Iraq Goes From 36% to 50%
From Harris Interactive Polls…
Belief that Iraq Had Weapons of Mass Destruction Has Increased Substantially
Despite being widely reported in the media that the U.S. and other countries have not found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, surprisingly; more U.S. adults (50%) think that Iraq had such weapons when the U.S. invaded Iraq. This is an increase from 36 percent in February 2005.
I’m sure this has something to do with the pure lies Rick Santorum and Fox News reported a few weeks ago.
Pretty sad. Although I think it says more about the complete stupidity and intellectual laziness of the Average American than the power of the Anti-American right wing media like Fox News etc.
Bazule — On 7-27-2006 at 4:57 pm
I would say it’s more the fault of the American Education system than anything else. We’ve become sheep.
Aaron — On 7-27-2006 at 5:05 pm
No way. I know there are a lot of stupid people out there, but I don’t believe this poll, unless the question was asked insincerely, with bias, etc. I don’t believe this result.
restless — On 7-27-2006 at 5:47 pm
I’m not sure I believe the polls. It depends on how the quetions that supposedly got that result were shaped. There’s lies, damn lies and statistics.
Sid — On 7-27-2006 at 7:57 pm
Aaron, restless;
Funny that we are talking about intellectual laziness.
You talk about how ‘It depends on how the questions that supposedly got that result were shaped.’
Well, there is a link to the poll with the actual questions. Talk about lazy.
“Do you believe that the following statements are true or not true?”
Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the U.S. invaded.
People are stupid. Believe it.
Potfry — On 7-27-2006 at 8:10 pm
Or it could be that the fact that Saddam Hussein SAID he had WMD, acted like he had WMD, and used biological weapons against his own people, was good enough for most folks. The fact that we didn’t find them really doesn’t matter. For most people who think simply and logically. Which, um, you all seem to lack.
Porter Venn — On 7-27-2006 at 9:23 pm
Uhhh Potfry… Those Nasty WMD’s you speak of that Saddam had? They were Chemical weapons used against the Iranians in the Iran / Iraq war in the 1980’s. As in… you know… the 1980’s. Ring a Bell? Boy George, Ronald Reagan, Pac Man, Rubiks Cube… Those 1980’s. Which happened around 20 years prior to George Bush’s Infamous Mushroom Cloud speeches in the months before the 2003 invasion.
Aaron — On 7-27-2006 at 10:04 pm
I never said anything about lazy. But yea, I’m lazy, I didn’t take them time to see the question. I figured someone like you might post it for me.
Loser — On 7-28-2006 at 7:16 am
So how come the whole rest of the world thought he had it too? You seem to foget that pretty much EVERYBODY agreed that he had it, that wasn’t what all the controvery was about. The controvery was over what should be done about it.
Aaron — On 7-28-2006 at 8:20 am
No, sorry, I don’t remember EVERYBODY agreeing that. I don’t remember the UN inspectors agreeing with that. Myself, I wasn’t sure one way or the other. I wasn’t sure the government was capable of completely lying to the country. My brother, Porter, was sure that he was (lying) though. So was my Father. I thought some of the things might have been fabricated - particularly the mobile labs on rail lines. Forget the labs, I still haven’t even seen any evidence that Iraq even had a single rail line. I’d say I was like a lot of people (and probably what you meant by your (”EVERYBODY”), suspecting Iraq probably had some spare chemical weapons sitting around - significantly more than have turned up. Not that I believed this was much of a threat, though. It seemed like a very poor justification for war when better reasons were out there. Similarly, despite my believing this, I never thought these reasons justified us actually pressing the button to go ahead with the war. Particularly considering that it wasn’t justified by the UN and that the “Coalition of the Willing” would basically be us, with a little help from the UK. Should these “WMD”, had they existed, have been considered truly weapons of mass destruction? Perhaps technically, but not really in my eyes. They could never have been used against the US and if Hussein ever used them against neighboring countries then he would surely have spelled his doom in the court of world opinion, and the UN. So no, his WMD was hardly a threat at all. This is a better characterization and is what history will remember.
Loser — On 7-28-2006 at 10:44 am
I agree Aaron. I belived him as well, though I had doubts about how much of a threat Saddam constituted to the US. Nevertheless, although I believed he wouldn’t use them, I believed he would hand them out to anyone who wanted them. I don’t thin, however, that BUsh lied. That Powell lied. I think they - and most of the rest of hte other worl - believed Saddam had it. But they were wrong. Unfortunately, the only people paying for that mistake are the young men and women being killed and crippled in Iraq right now, both ours and theirs. A mistake of that magnitude should have seen heads rolling in Washington - but no one was held accountable. And when accountability goes, people feel as though they can do anything they want.
Aaron — On 7-28-2006 at 11:16 am
I wouldn’t say I necessarily believed him. In fact I didn’t much care about the evidence one way or the other. I think it’s obvious now, though, and it’s beeb very well documented, that the Bush administration dumped, pushed, fabricated (not that they necessarily fabricated them, although they had good reason to believe they were likely fabricated) stories into the media and subsequently the UN. You don’t call this a lie, I do. I believe he went before the American people and said things he knew were, at the very least, likely not true. Did he believe that these ends would justify the means - That we would find greater intact stores of chemical weapons when all was said and done? I’m really unsure. Either way though, this wouldn’t change my opinion that this qualified as a lie.
restless — On 7-28-2006 at 11:26 am
Well, I don’t see how you could come to the conclusion that neither Bush nor Powell lied. There have been a half a dozen books published now by people who either worked in the government (Clark, et al.) or have investigated the events (Bernstein, et al.), as well as all the articles around the Plame/Niger yellowcake affair, that conclusively prove this Administration was hell-bent on regime change in Iraq long before 9/11 **and** were deliberately ignoring and distorting the intelligence they were receiving. If that’s not lying, what is?
Potfry — On 7-28-2006 at 12:45 pm
Thanks for straightening me out, Porter. The fact that it happened “way back when” is so highly relevant. Clearly, the man changed alot in the 80s and 90s– found his sensitive side, sort of like you. Worked with charities, the homeless, and generally tried to make the world a better place.
I. DON’T. CARE. IF. WE. DON’T. FIND. WMD.
The man said he had them, and certainly acted like he did. If he was an idiot in addition to being a murderous tyrant, he had it coming to him.
Analeye Lipshtiz — On 7-28-2006 at 6:41 pm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48827
Or you guys could read David Kaye’s report?